(Percy shrugs. He's sixteen, man, and he's barely been able to make it through a year of high school. As if he has a single clue about nourishment and the effects of it. On top of that, he doesn't full care either because again- sixteen. Pizza constituted as all the necessary food groups to him. Really, Gyro.)
Dunno, man. I'm surprised people here aren't running around with STDs like crazy but hey, no one seems to be questioning that any more than the synthetic food and fire wood. Don't you think if they can prevent diseases, they can probably provide nourishment? I saw other non-humans here and I mean really nonhumans and their nourishment requirements might be completely different than a human's. Kinda like how you can't feed a dog chocolate. Well, not like that, but you get what I'm saying. We're all eating the same food and no one's dying from lack of vitamins so...
(Again, he has no idea and it's not like he fully trusts the place but considering the circumstances, he literally has no choice but to trust Amoi. Otherwise he would just starve and he's a little bit too into living to do that.)
Well, no? They eat other healthy alternatives. It's a bit extreme and a lot of them are pretty rude about their opinions but it isn't like it's not a livable lifestyle. And I'm pretty sure the anti-leather ones are the ones who take it to the absolute extreme, so, you know.
(Percy raises his brows at Gyro, tipping his head.)
Vegans who can manage a better diet are usually perfectly healthy. I'd say Vegetarians are the healthier though - and kind of the most logical. I mean, I don't know about your world, but in our world red meat is super dangerous for your heart and people who over eat it wind up with a lot of heart problems so it isn't like meats the best for you. There's a lot of fat in it and stuff, I think. The vegan thing's only stupid because they don't seem to understand how cows need to be milked or how chickens just naturally lay eggs. But like I said, they take it to the extreme and a lot of extremists don't always think too clearly.
Sure, but again, I don't think that's what vegans are really fighting against. Okay, some of the crazy ones, totally, but like...a lot of vegetarians and vegans are just taking a stand against the industries because they do messed up things. So it's not really like you can fault them.
(The gin hits his tongue like acid and you know what's unfortunate about this Gyro?????
You're sitting near him and he's facing you because he's polite when he talks so when he spits it out- yeah.
You get some of that right back in your face in nice mist form. He makes a face and wrinkles up his nose.)
Dude, you're a jerk.
(That's fine, Gyro. Just take another drink of your flask. Gin has got some water in it so he keeps an eye on the next time Gyro decides to take a drink because he is sooo shooting that all over Gyro's face. You want a prank? That's fine but Percy will serve it right back.
Percy snorts, looking a bit somber.)
Yeah, well, we did a real good job of killing nature. That time especially. It isn't against you but I'm from quite a ways in the future from that. People only just started realizing how awful they've treated the world and how there's no fixing it. It's how we survive, maybe, but it wasn't the only option.
(Percy glares at Gyro a little bit.)
You're not getting it, are you? 'Things have to die'. Sure, I agree with that. But I really don't understand why an animal has to be beaten through it's whole life and then be killed horrifically just to 'feed people'. Like, no? You love Valkyrie?
(He points over to said horse.)
Do you actually want to know how some people treat their horses? Or are you going to just argue that 'welp, animals gotta die sometimes'. It's not about that. It's about how they're ...."allowed" to live until they die that's the problem. And you know, that's the problem- that mentality. "People won't just change or learn" - that's total bull. That mentality keeps everyone rooted to the past. It's stupid.
(Percy's actually getting fully worked up now. The kid had a stringent set of morals. It was actually this very topic, this idea that people just didn't want to change ever, that had caused the war that he was about to enter. He turns away from Gyro a little bit, glaring at the fire. He had seen friends die because people didn't want to change. It was such bullshit in his head and his morale didn't leave much room for feeling too keenly on it.)
You're close-minded, aren't you?
(He muttered quietly, feeling oddly disappointed. All adults were so close-minded. The gods were so stuck in their ways, all of the adults he had ever yelled in the faces of of why can't we change things?! had only ever shrugged and seemed to say: "That's just the way things are, Percy." He didn't get that. He never would and he never wanted to understand that. He'd rip apart Mount Olympus himself before he would and funnily enough, wasn't that what Luke was doing? Funny how sometimes you start to understand the 'villain'.)
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Dunno, man. I'm surprised people here aren't running around with STDs like crazy but hey, no one seems to be questioning that any more than the synthetic food and fire wood. Don't you think if they can prevent diseases, they can probably provide nourishment? I saw other non-humans here and I mean really nonhumans and their nourishment requirements might be completely different than a human's. Kinda like how you can't feed a dog chocolate. Well, not like that, but you get what I'm saying. We're all eating the same food and no one's dying from lack of vitamins so...
(Again, he has no idea and it's not like he fully trusts the place but considering the circumstances, he literally has no choice but to trust Amoi. Otherwise he would just starve and he's a little bit too into living to do that.)
Well, no? They eat other healthy alternatives. It's a bit extreme and a lot of them are pretty rude about their opinions but it isn't like it's not a livable lifestyle. And I'm pretty sure the anti-leather ones are the ones who take it to the absolute extreme, so, you know.
(Percy raises his brows at Gyro, tipping his head.)
Vegans who can manage a better diet are usually perfectly healthy. I'd say Vegetarians are the healthier though - and kind of the most logical. I mean, I don't know about your world, but in our world red meat is super dangerous for your heart and people who over eat it wind up with a lot of heart problems so it isn't like meats the best for you. There's a lot of fat in it and stuff, I think. The vegan thing's only stupid because they don't seem to understand how cows need to be milked or how chickens just naturally lay eggs. But like I said, they take it to the extreme and a lot of extremists don't always think too clearly.
Sure, but again, I don't think that's what vegans are really fighting against. Okay, some of the crazy ones, totally, but like...a lot of vegetarians and vegans are just taking a stand against the industries because they do messed up things. So it's not really like you can fault them.
(The gin hits his tongue like acid and you know what's unfortunate about this Gyro?????
You're sitting near him and he's facing you because he's polite when he talks so when he spits it out- yeah.
You get some of that right back in your face in nice mist form. He makes a face and wrinkles up his nose.)
Dude, you're a jerk.
(That's fine, Gyro. Just take another drink of your flask. Gin has got some water in it so he keeps an eye on the next time Gyro decides to take a drink because he is sooo shooting that all over Gyro's face. You want a prank? That's fine but Percy will serve it right back.
Percy snorts, looking a bit somber.)
Yeah, well, we did a real good job of killing nature. That time especially. It isn't against you but I'm from quite a ways in the future from that. People only just started realizing how awful they've treated the world and how there's no fixing it. It's how we survive, maybe, but it wasn't the only option.
(Percy glares at Gyro a little bit.)
You're not getting it, are you? 'Things have to die'. Sure, I agree with that. But I really don't understand why an animal has to be beaten through it's whole life and then be killed horrifically just to 'feed people'. Like, no? You love Valkyrie?
(He points over to said horse.)
Do you actually want to know how some people treat their horses? Or are you going to just argue that 'welp, animals gotta die sometimes'. It's not about that. It's about how they're ...."allowed" to live until they die that's the problem. And you know, that's the problem- that mentality. "People won't just change or learn" - that's total bull. That mentality keeps everyone rooted to the past. It's stupid.
(Percy's actually getting fully worked up now. The kid had a stringent set of morals. It was actually this very topic, this idea that people just didn't want to change ever, that had caused the war that he was about to enter. He turns away from Gyro a little bit, glaring at the fire. He had seen friends die because people didn't want to change. It was such bullshit in his head and his morale didn't leave much room for feeling too keenly on it.)
You're close-minded, aren't you?
(He muttered quietly, feeling oddly disappointed. All adults were so close-minded. The gods were so stuck in their ways, all of the adults he had ever yelled in the faces of of why can't we change things?! had only ever shrugged and seemed to say: "That's just the way things are, Percy." He didn't get that. He never would and he never wanted to understand that. He'd rip apart Mount Olympus himself before he would and funnily enough, wasn't that what Luke was doing? Funny how sometimes you start to understand the 'villain'.)
Whatever. Let's talk about something else.