[He listens and considers what is said about food and vegans. It's hard for him to make much commentary of Percy's world and how food works. His main problem with the idea of being vegan mostly just comes from how many people he knows are starving and are unable to get food at all in his own world. So people choosing just not to eat what's out there due to some high up opinion bothers him. So many people can't get any food, let alone highly specific types of it.]
[But before he has anything more to say on it, Percy's sputtering from the gin and Gyro's laughing, even as it sprays at his face.]
Nyo-hooo! Don't like it?? It's 'Juniper juice', hohoho!
[He'll take the flask back though, wiping his face and cackling before he'll somber up too. Seems to him that Percy's not the one who gets it here, even if he thinks Gyro isn't. His point was things die and it's natural. He never said it made sense for things to be tortured, or killed horrifically. ESPECIALLY not those things. As an executioner of criminals, he was taught to kill them as cleanly and perfectly as possible without any sign of suffering, he'd say killing should always be done like that, especially for food. He has no idea where Percy is getting all this shit about killing horrifically, after all, he never mentioned how things should die, just that they do and it's natural. Though he doubts it's Percy's own strong opinions leading him to just jump into this anger.]
[So Gyro will stay calm, quiet, and let him talk. Just let him get it all out. It seems that Gyro's quite able to put on a serious and emotionless face, doing so now as he watches him, staring.]
No, we're not going to talk about something else, it seems like you got the wrong idea, I'm not going to let you keep it.
Did I say a word about how people go about killing anything? Listen here.
People won't change.
You know why? They won't change completely, like you think anyway. But they won't because 'consent' exists.
[A breath, looking out now as he talks.]
People can be good or evil, or something like it... 'good' and 'bad' things exist, they will. Always will. And people will always be able to choose one or the others. That's consent, that's 'free will'. You can hope all you want that everyone's going to make the right choice about everything, but that's not going to happen.
Yeah, the world can change, more people can be smarter, figure out how to be better and stop hurting others and animals, and everything. But as long as 'free will' exists, the world's never going to be perfect. I get it, I get wanting it to be, I get wanting things to all be better, but sometimes it's not like that.
Sometimes... people are going to make the 'bad choices'. You can either have everyone choose the same good decisions over and over without actually choosing, or you can have free will. If you want 'free will' as a part of life, then you have to consider the down side...
that free will means people can't completely change. Not everyone.
[Lifting the flask, he holds it there, not drinking yet.]
As for what I said about life and death being part of it- why'd you ever think I meant people and animals should suffer? Did I fucking say that? No. Stop jumping to conclusions like that.
[And he'll drink. He feels sick on the subject, but people like Percy... they'd find out eventually that the world couldn't be all that they wanted. The point Gyro was trying to make was that you can go and try to change things all out want, and yeah, you could, you needed to keep going and making the right choices and try to get others to as well. But it was that people, that EVERYONE still won't, and you can't just make them either. Even after all your work there will still be people out there that not only choose to do the bad thing, but don't actually care at all either. It was just how things were. And you had to accept that. If you went around thinking you could make every single person do what you believed was right, free will wouldn't exist anymore. And like death, free will was a necessary choice in life.]
[He just hope the kid gets it, but maybe he won't.]
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[But before he has anything more to say on it, Percy's sputtering from the gin and Gyro's laughing, even as it sprays at his face.]
Nyo-hooo! Don't like it?? It's 'Juniper juice', hohoho!
[He'll take the flask back though, wiping his face and cackling before he'll somber up too. Seems to him that Percy's not the one who gets it here, even if he thinks Gyro isn't. His point was things die and it's natural. He never said it made sense for things to be tortured, or killed horrifically. ESPECIALLY not those things. As an executioner of criminals, he was taught to kill them as cleanly and perfectly as possible without any sign of suffering, he'd say killing should always be done like that, especially for food. He has no idea where Percy is getting all this shit about killing horrifically, after all, he never mentioned how things should die, just that they do and it's natural. Though he doubts it's Percy's own strong opinions leading him to just jump into this anger.]
[So Gyro will stay calm, quiet, and let him talk. Just let him get it all out. It seems that Gyro's quite able to put on a serious and emotionless face, doing so now as he watches him, staring.]
No, we're not going to talk about something else, it seems like you got the wrong idea, I'm not going to let you keep it.
Did I say a word about how people go about killing anything? Listen here.
People won't change.
You know why? They won't change completely, like you think anyway. But they won't because 'consent' exists.
[A breath, looking out now as he talks.]
People can be good or evil, or something like it... 'good' and 'bad' things exist, they will. Always will. And people will always be able to choose one or the others. That's consent, that's 'free will'. You can hope all you want that everyone's going to make the right choice about everything, but that's not going to happen.
Yeah, the world can change, more people can be smarter, figure out how to be better and stop hurting others and animals, and everything. But as long as 'free will' exists, the world's never going to be perfect. I get it, I get wanting it to be, I get wanting things to all be better, but sometimes it's not like that.
Sometimes... people are going to make the 'bad choices'. You can either have everyone choose the same good decisions over and over without actually choosing, or you can have free will. If you want 'free will' as a part of life, then you have to consider the down side...
that free will means people can't completely change. Not everyone.
[Lifting the flask, he holds it there, not drinking yet.]
As for what I said about life and death being part of it- why'd you ever think I meant people and animals should suffer? Did I fucking say that? No. Stop jumping to conclusions like that.
[And he'll drink. He feels sick on the subject, but people like Percy... they'd find out eventually that the world couldn't be all that they wanted. The point Gyro was trying to make was that you can go and try to change things all out want, and yeah, you could, you needed to keep going and making the right choices and try to get others to as well. But it was that people, that EVERYONE still won't, and you can't just make them either. Even after all your work there will still be people out there that not only choose to do the bad thing, but don't actually care at all either. It was just how things were. And you had to accept that. If you went around thinking you could make every single person do what you believed was right, free will wouldn't exist anymore. And like death, free will was a necessary choice in life.]
[He just hope the kid gets it, but maybe he won't.]